I purchased these shoes twice from two separate vendors. Both times the shoes had obvious manufacturing flaws and needed to be returned. It's apparent that Drew's quality control standards are very low and I would not recommend these shoes to anyone. For the price, find a pair that are better made. The one positive: the customer service at OnlineShoes.com was exemplary. Unlike the other vendor I dealt with, OnlineShoes.com refunded both the purchase price and the return shipping since the shoes were defective.